Kommentare zu: Schischa Mayer / Schischa Meir – 22. Mai 1866

Von: שישא ישראל

שישא ישראל — Tue, 21 Apr 2026 12:42:06 +0000

Als Antwort auf Carole Vogel. היה לו גם בן אברהם לפי השנים שחישבנתי

Von: שישא ישראל

שישא ישראל — Tue, 21 Apr 2026 12:03:46 +0000

Als Antwort auf Carole Vogel. אפשר לדעת איזה מאיר זה

Von: יואל

יואל — Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:50:24 +0000

Als Antwort auf Carole Vogel. איזה ר מאיר זה מעניין אני נכד של ר מאיר שישא שכתב בצוואתו גם שלא ליכתוב שו שבח

Von: Meir Deutsch

Meir Deutsch — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:00:45 +0000

Thank you Johannes for quoting from Max Grunwald. His article “Mattersdorf, in: Jahrbuch für Jüdische Volkskunde 1924/25” is considered an authority about Mattersdorf (or as you say: müsste eigentlich “Die Wahrheit” sein?). You say that Grunwald is many times ambiguous. I agree.
Shall give here only one example. When I looked at the customs of the Mattersdorf community I came to Simchas Tora. Grunwald writes on page 452: “Am Simchas Tora-Abend versammelt sich die Gemeinde nach dem Gottesdienste vor dem Tempel, um den Rabbiner Feierlich nach Hause zu begleiten. Voran schreitet die Musik […] Der Zug flankiert die Jugend mit Flackeln und die Knaben mit brennenden Wachskerzen.”
What does Grunwald mean by “Musik”? It surely could not have been played by instruments (on YOMTEV יום טוב). If he means “singing” then he would have used “Gesang” and not “Musik”. If we continue, he says that the procession had youth with torches and children with burning candles. This seems strange, as the houses in Mattersdorf were built mostly of wood. Fires were common. If fire broke out how would they extinguish it on YOMTEV? Once the procession reached the Rabbi’s house what would they do with the torches and burning candles? They could not extinguish them on יום טוב.
I know that also members of the Chrisliche Gemeinde took part in the שמחת תורה procession. Where they responsible to extinguish the torches and the candles? Did they play the music? Grunwald does not say anything about that. He does not mention SHABBES GOYs.

Von: Carole Vogel

Carole Vogel — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:02:00 +0000

Rabbi Mayer Schischa is the brother of my great-great-great-grandfather David Loewy. The family can be traced back to the 1600s in Mattersdorf. Mayer’s first wife, Lea Neufeld was the mother of Yitzchok and Gittel. His second wife Rebeka Deutsch (Sofer) was the mother of Reuvain, Lazar, Simon Eleazer, and Moritz (Moshe).