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	Kommentare zu: Gelles Judith &#8211; 28. Oktober 1921	</title>
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		Von: Meir Deutsch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meir Deutsch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 15:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You write &quot;Als Akrostichon (Zeile 6 – 10) findet sich ihr Vorname “Judith” יודית – nicht “Jehudit” יהודית wie in der 4. Zeile oder als letztes Wort in Zeile 7.&quot; 

Here you can see again (as in Ahron - Aron) the French influence on Yiddish. As pointed out on the page of Ahron Singer in he Blog,  In the French language you do not pronounce the letter H in the middle of a word
Her Hebrew name was Yehudit (or Jehudit as you write it) and that is the way it is written on the gravestone, but she was known in Yiddish as Judith. They wanted to remember her  Yiddish name and used it in the &quot;Akrostichon&quot;.

For the influence of the French language on Yiddish see my comment  on the page of &lt;a href=&quot;https://der-transkribierer.at/2010/07/19/einer-der-nicht-rabbiner-sein-wollte/&quot; title=&quot;Artikel &amp;apos;Einer der nicht Rabbiner sein wollte&amp;apos;&quot;&gt;Ahron Singer&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You write &#8220;Als Akrostichon (Zeile 6 – 10) findet sich ihr Vorname “Judith” יודית – nicht “Jehudit” יהודית wie in der 4. Zeile oder als letztes Wort in Zeile 7.&#8221; </p>
<p>Here you can see again (as in Ahron &#8211; Aron) the French influence on Yiddish. As pointed out on the page of Ahron Singer in he Blog,  In the French language you do not pronounce the letter H in the middle of a word<br />
Her Hebrew name was Yehudit (or Jehudit as you write it) and that is the way it is written on the gravestone, but she was known in Yiddish as Judith. They wanted to remember her  Yiddish name and used it in the &#8220;Akrostichon&#8221;.</p>
<p>For the influence of the French language on Yiddish see my comment  on the page of <a href="https://der-transkribierer.at/2010/07/19/einer-der-nicht-rabbiner-sein-wollte/" title="Artikel &apos;Einer der nicht Rabbiner sein wollte&apos;">Ahron Singer</a>.</p>
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		Von: Johannes		</title>
		<link>https://der-transkribierer.at/burgenland/juedischer-friedhof-mattersburg/gelles-judith-28-oktober-1921/#comment-1149</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johannes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 17:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Als Antwort auf &lt;a href=&quot;https://der-transkribierer.at/burgenland/juedischer-friedhof-mattersburg/gelles-judith-28-oktober-1921/#comment-1147&quot;&gt;Carole Vogel&lt;/a&gt;.

@Carole: Don&#039;t mention it! You have been right, that - especially for genealogical use - the secular names are important.
We&#039;ve discussed this question via Email, but for all users some explanatory notes:

&lt;ol&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;the URLs: will maintain the hebrew names - as before, because the search enginges have indexed them, and those &quot;speaking&quot; URLs are not so relevant for the descendants who are looking for their ancestors (for example: https://der-transkribierer.at/2010/05/27/friedenthal-meir-issachar-22-maerz-1893/)&lt;/li&gt;

	
	&lt;li&gt;The index itself is an automatically generated index of the headings of each blogpost (for example: &quot;Friedenthal Moritz / Friedenthal Meir Issachar ...&quot;)&lt;/li&gt;


	&lt;li&gt;Even though you can use the search function of the blog (which is searching through not only the blogposts but also the comments!), we are going to make different indices (names, symbols, woman&#039;s maiden name married name etc.) when we have finished the work. 
But, anyway, I&#039;ll try to enhance the search function. &lt;/li&gt;

&lt;/ol&gt;


And off topic: sorry, at the moment there is to do so much administrative work and nearly no time for the stones :(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Als Antwort auf <a href="https://der-transkribierer.at/burgenland/juedischer-friedhof-mattersburg/gelles-judith-28-oktober-1921/#comment-1147">Carole Vogel</a>.</p>
<p>@Carole: Don&#8217;t mention it! You have been right, that &#8211; especially for genealogical use &#8211; the secular names are important.<br />
We&#8217;ve discussed this question via Email, but for all users some explanatory notes:</p>
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<li>the URLs: will maintain the hebrew names &#8211; as before, because the search enginges have indexed them, and those &#8220;speaking&#8221; URLs are not so relevant for the descendants who are looking for their ancestors (for example: <a href="https://der-transkribierer.at/2010/05/27/friedenthal-meir-issachar-22-maerz-1893/" rel="ugc">https://der-transkribierer.at/2010/05/27/friedenthal-meir-issachar-22-maerz-1893/</a>)</li>
<li>The index itself is an automatically generated index of the headings of each blogpost (for example: &#8220;Friedenthal Moritz / Friedenthal Meir Issachar &#8230;&#8221;)</li>
<li>Even though you can use the search function of the blog (which is searching through not only the blogposts but also the comments!), we are going to make different indices (names, symbols, woman&#8217;s maiden name married name etc.) when we have finished the work.<br />
But, anyway, I&#8217;ll try to enhance the search function. </li>
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<p>And off topic: sorry, at the moment there is to do so much administrative work and nearly no time for the stones :(</p>
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		Von: Carole Vogel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carole Vogel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 15:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Johannes, for making the Mattersdorf gravestone index much more user friendly!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Johannes, for making the Mattersdorf gravestone index much more user friendly!</p>
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